How much do you think this will go for? Could it be legit?
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He is selling the information where he buy his stuff? My mind is telling me, that he is fairly wonderful, would you sell your cash cow or your star?
I don`t think so.
And even if the wants to provide stuff for other "big sellers" on ebay, I think he would earn more money when he give another one employment and keeps the half.
btw, here in Germany the Abercrombie time is over, too mutch sellers. -
What a scam. I can't believe some people have bid so much on it.
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Reading over an eBay auction like this really scares me for newbies. This is the most misleading advertisement I have seen on eBay in a long time!
It reads like he is going to give you his computer and clothing when he is selling INFORMATION for 650.00 so far? I feel really bad for these people bidding on the auction.
I deal directly with the LEGAL manufacturer of Abercrombie clothing and I know where my contact is, the quality of the clothing and shipment status. I have a feeling this person is probably dealing with those overseas contacts that may be selling illegal clothing and the people thinking they are going to be handed this profitable business have NO IDEA what a headache is ahead. Dealing with contacts that are not reputable and losing thousands of dollars and customers.
It just goes to show anything sells on ebay today. -
I emailed him to ask the same question. He states in the auction that you have to travel to buy the merchandise. I specifically asked if you have to travel overseas and was told no.
Sadly, I did a little research and there have been 2 others doing the same thing and closed auctions over the last 2 weeks. One auction sold for $7700 and the other for around $4000.
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I'd love to see the feedback the winner leaves after winning those auctions!
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well, I am sure gonna keep an eye on this one to watch the fire works...it is hard for me to believe to.
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Persanoally, I do not see anything too shady about the whole thing. It is clear to me that they person is simply selling the business info - for whatever reason.
No matter what the reason, that is the buyer's responsibility to find out and research the industry. It could be that this business is dying or becoming saturated and maturing to the point that profits are dwindling. WHatever the reason, I believe this is a completely legit sale from a comepletely legit seller. iIt is up to the buyer to make something of the business once he buys it - if that is at all possible anymore.
If this buyer gets a negative feedback for this auction, I suspect that it will be becaue of the buyer's inability to make anything out of the info he/she bought and therefore becoming hostile towards the seller - when all along it is the buyer's own fault. -
Reading over an eBay auction like this really scares me for newbies. This is the most misleading advertisement I have seen on eBay in a long time!
It reads like he is going to give you his computer and clothing when he is selling INFORMATION for 650.00 so far? I feel really bad for these people bidding on the auction.
Wow, did we read the same auction? It stated very clearly she was only selling information, not her stock or office equipment! This was in red:
"This auction is not for any of the clothing pictured. This auction is for right of my information on how to become the next Abercrombie Powerseller on eBay."
As for your claim that she is offering a source of counterfeit goods, what makes YOUR claim that YOUR goods are authentic any more believable? -
<<< He is selling the information where he buy his stuff? My mind is telling me, that he is fairly wonderful, would you sell your cash cow or your star? >>>
If you didn't want it anymore, why not? People don't run businesses forever. Someone posted that similar auctions recently closed at over $7K. If the information will allow a buyer to become a successful Powerseller, and that's the buyer's goal, I imagine the sum is worth it. Nobody gives away any good information. The ones who post all over the place selling lists for $300 are the ones selling garbage. -
mspacman wrote: Reading over an eBay auction like this really scares me for newbies. This is the most misleading advertisement I have seen on eBay in a long time!
It reads like he is going to give you his computer and clothing when he is selling INFORMATION for 650.00 so far? I feel really bad for these people bidding on the auction.
Wow, did we read the same auction? It stated very clearly she was only selling information, not her stock or office equipment! This was in red:
"This auction is not for any of the clothing pictured. This auction is for right of my information on how to become the next Abercrombie Powerseller on eBay."
As for your claim that she is offering a source of counterfeit goods, what makes YOUR claim that YOUR goods are authentic any more believable? .
Here is what the seller has to say: This auction is not for any of the clothing pictured. This auction is for right of my information on how to become the next Abercrombie Powerseller on eBay. Winner of this auction is responsible for their own actions with the purchasing of the clothing and how they resell it on Ebay. I can only share my sources and information and what you do with it will determine your success.
Also had to say this:
I will teach you all you need to know with one month of customer support from me 24 hours a day (for 30 days) and walk you thru every type of situation that most of us Power Sellers go thru on a day to day basis. You may have to travel to get the clothing as I have done but for what profits you can make I assure you that it is worth it.
Bid is currently at $710.00 of course the reserve has not been met yet!
You have until Feb-18-04 17:19:07 PST to make up your mind if you are going to bid on it this is when the auction ends! -
The reserve is $4000. I asked him yesterday via email.
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mspacman wrote: The ones who post all over the place selling lists for $300 are the ones selling garbage.
That is because you have not found the right lists.
I'll give you a hint. You certainly won't find any of them on ebay or on any search engine I have found. In fact, you might have to spend near $1,000.00 just to find any of the companies that sell these legit lists.
When I say legit, I mean, real wholesalers. But there is always risk involved. No list provider can guarantee that you will have a positive experience with any of the wholesalers, that would be impossible. But they are all real and they all have decent small lot pricing.
Good luck in finding them.
I know the one company well. I asked if they would let me post about them on these types of boards but they would not let me. They only prefer to deal with bonafide, qualified buyers as per the request of the wholesalers listed -
The sad part about it all is that I would guess that most of the folks bidding do not realize that they will have to spend thousands and thousands more on inventory and other expenses and that possibly they will not be able to do this and have a FT job at the same time (successfully, that is).
Sad, because they may be that naive, not because the seller is not making it 100% clear or anything lik etaht. Htere is a certain "given" when buying something like this and the average bidder never thinks of it. -
<<< Good luck in finding them. >>>
Actually, I'm not looking for them. I posted elsewhere about how I think people might have more luck working contacts that may be available to them via their jobs or social circles. I have found a couple of niches that are serving me well on eBay this way. I'm not interested in a full-time job of re-selling. But your post reinforced what I said, that good information is not cheap and it's hard to find. The solicitations all over the place (e.g., this forum) are probably not high quality information. -
<<< Sad, because they may be that naive, not because the seller is not making it 100% clear or anything lik etaht. Htere is a certain "given" when buying something like this and the average bidder never thinks of it. >>>
Oh, I don't know about that. I'd think that someone who could pony up $4K plus would have done some thinking/research into what running such a business might take. I think the seller is as clear as he/she needs to be. A lecture on what it takes to make a business run isn't appropriate for such an auction. Really, it's buyer beware on everything on eBay, isn't it? -
Someone mentioned the possibility of the clothes in this auction not being authentic. I think that's a tremendous danger in dealing with any mid-price level clothing like A/F. I would shy away from clothing, period, if I didn't have special training in a professional capacity on how to recognize counterfeits. Even department store buyers are fooled on occasion.
I have a friend from Korea who travels home frequently and brings back all kinds of counterfeit goods -Coach purses, Starter jackets, Hello Kitty toddler clothing, etc. I've looked her stuff over carefully and honestly can't tell her well-made counterfeits from the real thing. I think this alone would make such a business a minefield more so than any other inexperience. -
<<< I deal directly with the LEGAL manufacturer of Abercrombie clothing and I know where my contact is, the quality of the clothing and shipment status. >>>
Why would the LEGAL manufacturer of A/C -or any other name brand- sell to a person who is going to resell the stuff on the internet in direct competition with the authorized retailers, at much lower prices? Surely A/F has clauses in their contracts that prohibit their manufacturers from doing this? Otherwise they'd alienate all their retailers, no? I think I asked you this elsewhere, but you never answered. This makes me question the authenticity of your own goods. -
Very true.
ALso, glad to see you found your own sources by networking. Other than paying for sources, this is the only other way to go about it. It may take years to find the right source, but if you look hard and realistically, you'll find them...eventually. -
mspacman wrote:<<< Sad, because they may be that naive, not because the seller is not making it 100% clear or anything lik etaht. Htere is a certain "given" when buying something like this and the average bidder never thinks of it. >>>
Oh, I don't know about that. I'd think that someone who could pony up $4K plus would have done some thinking/research into what running such a business might take. I think the seller is as clear as he/she needs to be. A lecture on what it takes to make a business run isn't appropriate for such an auction. Really, it's buyer beware on everything on eBay, isn't it?
Oh, yes. I agree. I did not mean that the seller should state all theat stuff. After all, if he did, he would not have gotten all the bids he got so far.
But take this into consideration. There is a reserve and as someone else stated, this seller gives the reserve if you ask. I suspect that most of the bidders up to this point are not serious buyers with actuual money to buy this info. Now once we start getting closer to the ending date and closer to the reserve, you will see the bids dwindle. When it's time to put up or shut up, the folks with no money usually will shut up. Unless of course they are dishonest and have no intention on paying up if they win. -
mspacman wrote:<<< I deal directly with the LEGAL manufacturer of Abercrombie clothing and I know where my contact is, the quality of the clothing and shipment status. >>>
Why would the LEGAL manufacturer of A/C -or any other name brand- sell to a person who is going to resell the stuff on the internet in direct competition with the authorized retailers, at much lower prices? Surely A/F has clauses in their contracts that prohibit their manufacturers from doing this? Otherwise they'd alienate all their retailers, no? I think I asked you this elsewhere, but you never answered. This makes me question the authenticity of your own goods.
SOme companies do this, but they will only sell you the stuff that is left over and now out of season. However, most will put a stipulation on the sale requiring you to expost the goods or limit the are in which you can sell within a scertain territory.
Of, course, you can go against the rules, but if you get caught, they will have your merchandised seized and you will receive a large fine.
Sears does this with their craftsman tool surplus. They keep tight dibs on the stuff. You have to deface the name from the tools and you have to usually export them. ANd believe me, they know who they sell to and they watch you. they use tracking systems to do so. They have no problems with getting the law involoved if you go against the contract.
WHich brings me to a thought about the auction and seller in question. If he is selling "variants" of A/C and going against the law, the chances of him actually being around for so long and having that great 99.7% FB are slim.
Ebay is very serious about thier Vero program. If A/C had a problem with this seller, he would have been long gone y now.
Take Dewalt, for instance. They have copyrighted the yellow/black color scheme for power tools. Legally, no one can sell power tools that are yellow and black. The Black and Decker Corporation (the makers of DeWalt tools) is quite serious about this copyright. Their legal dept. is constantly scanning ebay for non-DeWalt tools that are pictured with a yellow and black color scheme and they have ebay shut your auction down under their VeRo program. You then cannot relist until B&D's legal department approves of your new pisture. You have to change the color of the tool in the picture and send it to them and then they have to approve of it. Then they contact ebay to let you be able to relist the tools again. ALot of the time, even if you chang ethe color in the picture but state in your auction that "color may vary" DeWalt will still have ebay shut the auction down. This has happened, but not all the time. As ling as the picture is not showing a yellow/black power tool, they will usually let you go. -
UPDATE.
Beware, folks. If you are going to bid on this auction, read this first.
I bid on the auction just for sh@@ and giggles. The seller (within minutes) emailed me thanking me for my bid and told me the reserve price and kind of ruched me into bidding more (which I did not like).
I emailed the seller back asking for his/her registered/legal business name so that I could check them out before placing another bid. I also asked if the stuff they are selling on ebay and the sources they use are authentic A/F clothing.
The seller replied...
"All my items are 100% authentic Abercrombie & Fitch items I can assure you that."
" am a very honest seller and my feedback most definitely reflects that, also you see that I close auctions successfully everyday and even the negatives that I have are being removed slowly but surely and my positive feedbacks are multiplying daily. I am very ambitious about promoting my auction and that is the only reason I emailed you about the actual amount of the reserve price. "
"What do you mean registered company name? We are AuctionCorners2, before we were Abercrombie_Surplus on eBay, no actual business anywhere besides on eBay. We are opening up an eBay drop-off type retail store locally and that is why we are offering the auction for the information on eBay. All the research can be done by checking out our past 30 days auctions, my feedback, and even the current auctions for the Abercrombie clothing. Any other info you need just let me know"
I then replied defining what I meant by registered business name. I told them that I meant the legal name that they do business under as far as their local, state and federal governments are concerned.
THe seller then replied...
"Your questions seem to be of no concern for winning my auction. I am a legit seller and wish not to devulge my personal information".
NOw folks, you can take this all as you wish. But this is my take. If in fact you have nothing to hide, you will let others know your business name. After all, you have to know who you are paying right. WHat if you found a supplier that would not give you his legal business name? Would you do business with them? I hope not. It is just a name. But with that name, you can possibly check them out, like with the BBB or the FTC.
Bottom line, they were acting very shady to me and got ULTRA defensive when I seemd to ask the "right" questions, so they cancelled my bid.
Take this as a warning. If you are thinking of bidding on this auction....think twice at the very least. -
ANd i just got an email from her stating that she is going to report me to ebay. FOr what, I do not know.
You gotta wonder about abusines that will not let you know their business name before you give them money.
Oh well, I really do not care if she is successful at getting ebay to suspend me or what ever (I haven't used my ebay ID for over a year). I just thought I'd let you all know the kind of person this seller is in case you are thinkin gof bidding on this auction. -
I know it sounds like a wonderful question, but I am not sure. This is my second business I am running and I established both under the proper local, state, and federal guidelines. Can one just run a business on eBay without having a registered business name? Sure one can sell a few items here and there, but we are talking about thousands in this case. How would they withhold sales tax, pay personal property tax, pay the business license tax, and other state requirements for sole proprietorships if they are not registered?
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As I posted under other topics, it is impossible to hide your ID if you run a Washington business. Simply look my business up, and there is my state ID and my name. I figure if you know what state the seller is in, you should be able to look it up.
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Yes. You can run a business on ebay without having a business name. this may be the case with this seller. SHe could be a sole proprietorship just using her name and SS# to file her business earnings and sales tax.
That is a good point. However, she was really defensive when I asked for her business name and asked if she sells authentic A/F clothing leading me to believe that if she does have a business name, she does not want me to have it because she has something to hide. In my opinion. -
I have a question, perhaps I should start a new thread with it but, it pertains to the subject of supplier info.
Since you have a legit business with all the proper licenses and tax ids, why couldn't you just deal with the company's sales rep in your area to obtain merchandise ? As an example, here in Chicago, there is the " Merchandise Mart" (a two block long,multi floored bldg) which houses sales reps from every major company and some smaller companies as well. I've been there and purchased jewelry from several companies to sell at my business. All that is reqired is a tax #. Some companies do require you to have a brick and mortar store, others don't. It's just a matter of you doing the foot work to find the ones who can be of any help to you in your business. The internet is a good resource, but not the only one and they all require work on your part.
I think auctions like the one being discussed here are for the lazy business person who wants everything handed to them on a silver platter and do as little work as they can to get it. So they are willing to pay big $$$'s for someone else's work. Which is fine if that's what your looking for.
Bottom line, if you are in a business, it's hard work. There is no easy street to ride. -
Just a pet peeve, but I hate private auctions. I want to know who is bidding against me, are they serious bidders or some NB. This auction is private and I don't know why she made it private. Why is she hiding the bidders identities?
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<<< SOme companies do this, but they will only sell you the stuff that is left over and now out of season. However, most will put a stipulation on the sale requiring you to expost the goods or limit the are in which you can sell within a scertain territory. >>>
Thanks for the info. How would that apply to internet sales, though? Because, obviously, anyone from anywhere can buy your goods that way. -
<<< Just a pet peeve, but I hate private auctions. I want to know who is bidding against me, are they serious bidders or some NB. This auction is private and I don't know why she made it private. Why is she hiding the bidders identities? >>>
I hate them, too, and never bid on them. Too easy to be shill-bid up (as if non-private auctions aren't easy enough already).
The reason I've been given for why some sellers hold private auctions is that they don't want others contacting their bidders with offers for the same product, cheaper, off-eBay. I can understand that. That wouldn't seem to apply to this particular auction, though, would it.
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