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Can anybody confirm that this was never made by Abercrombie? I was planning on wholesaling these but included in the lot of various color Nadine hoodies was this green one. I have never seen this color on Ebay or offered by other wholesalers. The quality is good but unfortunately I do not have a store bought product I can compare to. Does anybody have access to past Abercrombie catalogs or other info that can confirm that a green track hoodie was never made? I would need good concrete proof (just because they dont have this color on Ebay is not sufficient) so I can contact my supplier and bring this to their attention. Any help is appreciated.

I must say the tags look good, however they say MADE IN CHINA instead of Made in Macau (where all the other Nadine's were made). I just think its interesting that no nadines that anyone has found have ever been made in China, only another hoodie which was in question by another member. You are right, this color was never made by AF. Whether or not this was an item that was made but decided not to be released in stores is a different issue. Personally, if this is fake, it is a high quality one I feel. I wish I still had my paper tag for the nadine so I can compare the actual sku # for you.

virago222 wrote:I agree with Kitty that these are probably fake. I have the 2004 Back to School catalog which shows all the colors of the Nadines and a green version of this one is not included.

I don't think knowing the sku# would make any difference. Sometimes fake items have authentic tags attached. I've seen it myself.

And Kitty brings up an interesting point about the country of origin. I have contacted several different ebay sellers to ask about country of origin for certain items, and sometimes I get different answers. For example, in the case of Cross Country Ski Team hoodies, all 3 sellers gave me different answers. Yet they all came with price tags. I don't know what to think of this. Does AF have different plants in different countries for the same item? I know Diesel does.

Hi Virago, WOW I was not aware that fake items had Skus that were the same as auth. items. I have seen fake paper tags that were done in a wrong font so clearly that one stood out to me the most. From what I know about AF, ever season all the photos of test items are put into the catalogs. Sometimes if that item arrives to us and is not up to quality, we find a different manufacturor (possibly located in a different country) or we go ahead and decide not to release it. It makes perfect sense to me one style of an AF item would only be made in one country. Maybe in China it is cheaper to make jackets as opposed to Macau where it's cheaper to make fleece. That was never really made clear to me while I worked for the company, but of course fakes were not a problem at that time and these thoughts had never crossed my mind. I'll be happy to aska friend who is still in corporate so I can share that info with the board.

The thing that confuses me. I could be completely wrong, but I thought these retailed at 59.50, I don't remember a hoodie retailing at less then that for abercrombie, but def could be wrong.

But I recognized something different, its not that good to see at the two colors with "fitch track" on it, but they dont have the sizing tag right to the AF-label.

NONE of the AF items in their catalog or on their website have the size tag attached. You can't judge by that.

virago222 wrote:NONE of the AF items in their catalog or on their website have the size tag attached. You can't judge by that.

OK, I agree with that. I just checked my Polos wich I got from AF, all of them have a sizing tag, although its not to be seen in the catalog.

So you are right.

But hows about the different color of the Abercrombie script, I reffered to in my last post?

artvandalay wrote:Here's an example of a blue Nadine hoodie, the auction has two pictures. One shows the AF-website pic, the other is a custom made one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3326&rd=1t

The sweatshirt from the AF pic doees not seem to have the sizing tag, the sweatshir from the custommade pic has a sizing tag as the sweatshirt from Ihateretail has.

This is another Nadine hoodie from eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 92989&rd=1

It aswell has two pictures in it, an AF-one and a custommade. The color of the Abercrombie script on the chest doesnt even match the color it is supposed to have, regarding to the AF pic and the "back to school" catalog.
(But the ohter 25 hoodies on eBay have the wrong color aswell)

So what do you guys think, does AF take a picture of a prototype, and change it afterwards??

Yes they actually do, but I would say no in the case of the Nadine hoodie. Sometimes when AF gets their products in from the manu., they notice it's not up to quality. Then they either find another manu to make it for them or they just choose not to sell it. A perfect example is the Carson boucle jacket. If you look at the catalog photo, the jacket looks a particular way. If you look at the actaul jacket in stores, you can tell a different manufacturor was chosen to make it due to quality issues with the first one.

Unfortuanately it will not be until after the Holidays that I will be able to come up with more info on this stock. My in stock lots been posted in the For Sale section.

virago222:

And Kitty brings up an interesting point about the country of origin. I have contacted several different ebay sellers to ask about country of origin for certain items, and sometimes I get different answers. For example, in the case of Cross Country Ski Team hoodies, all 3 sellers gave me different answers. Yet they all came with price tags. I don't know what to think of this. Does AF have different plants in different countries for the same item? I know Diesel does.

I just wanted to note. I did a little shopping at the A&F retail store and came across the barstar flares. I noticed a medium vintage was made in the USA. Then I came across another with a darker color that was made in Canada. Then noticed the the barstars the Marmaxx group sells are made in Mexico. In the same sizing they all had a different fit. Just adds extra fun in authenticating