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An article about wholesalers and drop shippers

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  1. sparky888

    Joined: September 2004
    Posts: 5

    Here is an article by Chris Malta, eBays Product Sourcing guy. I thing that the group should find this interesting....



    When you're a small business starting out on the Internet, or even when you're an established 'Net business, you NEED drop shippers.

    Why? Because working with drop shippers eliminates the need for you to carry expensive inventories. You don’t have to rent a warehouse, hire employees, establish accounts with UPS and FedEx, etc. You can sell the best brand names on earth from your home computer, and make good money at it.

    Distributors who drop ship send the products you sell directly from their warehouse to your customer, with your business name on it. All you do it take the order from your customer and pass it to the distributor. You keep the difference between the wholesale price the distributor charges you, and the retail price you sell to your customer for.

    Of course, there are a lot of places out there that want you to THINK they are wholesale drop shippers. They’ll set up accounts with, say, 10 real drop ship distributors. Then they’ll call themselves something like “GetYerStuffHere.com”, and claim that THEY are the wholesale drop ship distributor. Then it’ll go like this:

    GetYerStuffHere.com will place advertising all over the Internet proclaiming to be the greatest source that ever existed for all kinds of great products, and they’ll drop ship all those products to your customer.

    You’ll get all excited because YOU can actually place everything from Sony electronics to Coleman Camping gear on your web site and sell it. GetYerStuffHere.com will charge you an account setup fee, to cover their “processing”. (Note: REAL wholesale distributors almost NEVER charge you a account setup fee).

    GetYerStuffHere.com will send you a nice, shiny list of products and show you where to get the product images and descriptions to place on your web site.

    You’ll get all excited, and put all this great stuff on your site, set your prices so that you can make a profit over what GetYerStuffHere.com.

    You’ll launch your site, and you hardly sell a thing.

    Huh? What happened? Nobody’s buying! You can’t survive on just a few orders a month!

    Disappointed and discouraged, you start to go out and check other web sites that carry the same products. Maybe they have better images. Maybe they have cooler descriptions. Maybe their pages look nicer. You find that it’s none of those things. So what DO you find?

    The other sites’ PRICES are lower. A LOT lower.

    You just got nailed by one of the most popular scams on the Internet.

    GetYerStuffHere.com took you for a couple of hundred dollars in exchange for a CD full of product images. They may have even locked you into a contract where you have to pay them every month to be a “member” of their “distributorship”.

    Oh, GetYerStuffHere.com DOES ship the products they claim to. Of course they do. It’s just that when they get an order from you, they turn around and place your order with the REAL wholesale drop shipper, and take a profit. By the time YOUR price is calculated, you’re paying not only wholesale, you’re paying GetYerStuffHere.com’s extra markup of anywhere from 10% to 30%.

    In order for YOU to make a profit, you naturally have to mark up the prices you get from GetYerStuffHere.com. By the time you do that, you can’t compete on the ‘Net. Your prices are just too high.

    At this point, you can do one of two things:
    You can lower your prices to the point where you’re making mere pennies on your products in order to compete.
    You can bypass these jokers and go to the REAL sources.

    I’ve been in Systems Engineering for 18 years. I’ve been involved in ECommerce since it began. In that time, I’ve seen this scenario played out over and over with companies I’ve done work for.

    The real sources can be hard to find. They don’t market themselves as Internet drop shippers. They are established wholesale companies who have been supplying big chains like Sears and Kmart for a very long time.

    Many of them are now realizing that a good part of their future lies in Internet sales, and they are establishing drop ship programs. There are even a few big name manufacturers who are beginning to drop ship right from their factories. That’s where YOU need to be. In direct contact with the actual wholesale distributor or factory source.

    When you’re looking for a drop shipper, here are a couple of things to be careful of:

    Any company that tells you that they’ll set up your entire web site AND PROVIDE THE PRODUCTS FOR YOU will NOT make you rich. They’ll make THEMSELVES rich on your setup and hosting fees, and you’ll piddle along with thousands of other small sites all selling exactly the same things at the same prices.

    (NOTE: Don’t confuse this with companies who just offer to set up your ECommerce web site. There are a lot of great places out there that will build and host sites for you. It’s when they tell you that you HAVE to sell the products that THEY provide that you should run for cover.)

    Any distributor who wants you to pay a “membership” or “setup” fee is probably not a true wholesale distributor.

    If it sounds too good to be true, it’s too good to be true.
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  2. pete

    Joined: March 2004
    Posts: 740

    Actually, Chris Malta is the guy who puts out the Dropship Directory. He has no ties to ebay.

    If you do a search here on either Chris Malta or Dropship Directory you will find plenty of info.

    I think that most folks feel it's a waste of money.
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  3. pabloz

    Joined: September 2004
    Posts: 17

    Are there any decent drop shippers located in europe?
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  4. galenabound

    Joined: August 2004
    Posts: 188

    I wasted my money on it and its a complete waste of money. The guys that sell the lists are the ones making the money.
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  5. sparky888

    Joined: September 2004
    Posts: 5

    I could be wrong, and I appreciate your input.

    "When eBay Radio decided to develop a Product Sourcing Segment on their show, to help 69 Million eBay users find products to sell online, Chris Malta and Worldwide Brands was their first choice to create that Radio Segment!"

    This is a direct statement from Chris's Website, And I don't think he is making a false claim, as I was interviewed on on of the segments.

    Chris does not provide a list, but an updated directory of drop shippers. Could you elaborate on why you feel that it is a complete waste of money?

    Although I am an affilate, I have also used this directory to find products to resell, and so have other people that I know in the related field. I have talked to other online store owners that have used this directory also, with sucessful results.

    Please elaborate on why you feel this way, I am really interested in hearing ALL input, and not just positive.
    :)
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  6. cxm322

    Joined: December 2003
    Posts: 1,167

    pete wrote:Actually, Chris Malta is the guy who puts out the Dropship Directory. He has no ties to ebay.

    If you do a search here on either Chris Malta or Dropship Directory you will find plenty of info.

    I think that most folks feel it's a waste of money.


    While Chris Malta may not be legally affiliated with eBay, eBay obviously endorses him in some way because they had him on eBay Radio plugging and selling his dropship directory to those looking to sell and make money on ebay. I vaguely remember the banner I saw on ebay advertising his appearance on Ebay Radio but it made it seem like Chris Malta was the authority on dropshipping.

    The funny part about all of this is that Chris's directory is full of dropshipers with VERY high wholesale prices. Some of his sources have low enough pricing that allow you to be able to compete if you have your own site (barely), but NONE of them have low enough prices to sell on ebay (then again, who does?).

    All in all, Chris Malta, his free ebook, and his list are, well, full of sh@#.

    He says...

    "Any distributor who wants you to pay a “membership” or “setup” fee is probably not a true wholesale distributor. "


    He is stepping on his own feet because I know of one dropshipper in his directory that does charge a set up fee and they are a legit wholesaler.

    Furthermore, he revamped his ebook since I last read it (about 3 years ago. He took made a bad ebook into a pretty bad ebook.

    I cannot believe that he uses the name of the site GetYerStuffHere.com. I'm not defending that site, heck, I haven't even visited it. However, his sole purpose for using their name is to bash them and their service. You know that he's only doing this because that company is so small that they would never sue him.

    While he may have one of the best directories you can buy, it is only the best by proxy because it certainly is not worth the money he charges for access to his list.

    Futhermore, I usually find that a company/person who tries to gain business by bashing another business usually has something to hide themselves and not worth dealing with.

    I have seen Chris on other forums trying to defend his list aginst folks who bash him and he gets very defensive and angry about it - a sign of an insecure seller who is unsure of his own product.

    All in all, if you are good at being a specialty retailer and can get folks to pay more for the items they buy from you, then you can probably use Malta's directory. But if you are just price-cutter or and ebay seller, you should forget about his directory as you will be very disappointed with the "wholesale" pricing the dropshippers on his list will give you.
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  7. galenabound

    Joined: August 2004
    Posts: 188

    Of course Ebay radio will endorse this guy. It will get millions of newbies to sign up with Ebay and they will collect from the fees. They don't care if you are overpaying for the items because they will still get their cut.
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  8. sparky888

    Joined: September 2004
    Posts: 5

    Thanks for the input.
    In defence of Chris, GetYerStuffHere.com is a non exsistant website, and Chris was using it as an example, and not to down anyones product or service. Simply trying to visit GetYerStuffHere.com would have told you that. He was just using GetYerStuffHere.com as a metaphor for the ecommerce sites that are out there.

    I agree with you about many of the drop shippers listed in that directory.(prices to high to make a profit at eBay), including the drop shipper that I am working for. (I am building a website for a local distributor.) But with a little research and effort, you can make a profit by using the drop shippers whos prices are not to high.
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