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A big NO on my side.. I see we got 4 hits on no so far..

I find alot of the sites I am visiting, or just about all of them are selling replica items... Some of the worst items are the Gucci dress shirts, Vd hats, VD tops, Diesel jeans..

I mean they look 100% fake, how can people not tell or not care?

waterlily wrote:I voted No - but i think there's a few exceptions.

There are legitament Knock Offs, such as similar colour, style but it doesn't have any label on them, or has a different label.

And some people want to deal with knock offs as it can be very profitable targeting people who cannot afford authentics, so those consumers go for the alternative.

I don't think it's going to stop those dodgy people who think they can get away with selling fakes as authentics. If they wanna do it - they will.

I am strongly against people trying to sell fakes as authentic.

But if they want to sell fakes, letting people know that they are fakes - i am fine with that.

You mean like example those Donna Broke bags where they look like LV bags with the colors and all? Or the non branded ugg looking boots? Ya those are all fine..

I agree with you David,

"I think it is sad that many people lie and pass off fakes as authentics.

I have trouble when somebody sells replicas in bulk because it seems to me that you are just empowering somebody to rip off another person.

You are not directly ripping somebody off but you are a part of the system that allows this shady type of business to happen. "

the big problem is people get that desperate for goods to sell, the big labels don't release their garments to ebayers etc so these people wil go for the next best option, i.e. knockoffs, unless these companies have a change in policy it is going to be very difficult to halt the flow of fakes, take all the fake diesels, gucci , LV etc etc off ebay and it would be empty, but of course they are not going to release their recent products ino the ebay market as the knock on effect on their flagship stores / bricks and mortar suppliers would be catastrophic. Perhaps one way around it would be to release goods at a higher wholesale price to ebayers etc so the ensd selling price would be similar to stores, can't see that happening in the near future so I guess it will continue as is for the forseeable.

This question has been bugging me for a while. How does a counterfeiter manage to get thousands and thousands of pairs of fake stuff into the USA that is marked "made in the USA".

Case in point: Seven Pink A Pockets - Those incredibly cheap looking counterfeits had to be made overseas (I have heard Indonesia), but they are marked "Made in USA". And there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of them flooding the market.

Wouldn't customs pull any overseas shipments marked "made in USA?" Forget the counterfeit issue, this is a basic labeling issue.

I just don't understand how they managed to get so many into the country. Most other fake apparel I have seen has been labeled "Made In China" or or similar. Customs doesn't know if it is counterfeit, but they are labeled within the law, so they get by.

Whoever pulled this scam off got over on not only a lot of ignorant buyers but also on the US customs service.

pete wrote:
"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't"

Actually the saying goes, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". Also I think everyone is looking at this topic in the wrong light. This is for people like Janesdeals who openly admit to selling fakes/replicas, this shouldn't be allowed. Also I don't see that if someone starts selling fakes as authentics on here that they shouldn't be banned if more then three people come forward that have bought from said person and say they got swindled.

Even if they are not banned, the users of this forum will make sure that everyone knows they sell fakes. Look at janesdeals and how her companies reputation has gone down the crapper.

There are maybe 70 million, or billion, or maybe even gadzillion containers coming in every year. They can't check them all for WMD's, let alone tags on every piece of clothing. It's a !@#$-shoot. Some get caught, some get through.

Actually, the US government is big on the Made in USA thing. Copies, replicas, whatever are more a problem for the original designer. But, messing with "Country of Origin" labelling is a federal offense, and one they will enforce.

All you need to do is make a phone call to the Dept of Commerce and tell them who is selling what, with wrong, or removed COO info and there will be some action.

In recent years in my area there has been a large brass shop selling to tourists in Williamsburg VA that got caught peeling Made in India labels off brass goods. Paid a hefty fine $ 50,000 or more and had their entire inventory confiscated.

There was a plumber doing a large federal job who was grinding Made in Can't Remember" off of the cast iron fittings they were using. Paid a big buck fine and got put on the No Bid list with the feds.

They really don't play with this. It is an obvious intent to defraud and they will go to federal court with it. And they always lose the goods.

So, instead of complaining here, simply pick up the phone, or I'm sure you can email, the Commerece Dept and let them know what you know. This is one area where our tax dollars at work can really help us, the small guys.

Definitely NO!
Selling fakes are illegal and who of you want to be a member of an illegal forum? If they call it the nice word "replica" that nothing changes!

No fakes, no replica.

Yeah, all those LV Style bags on ebay

The way between replica (real replica) and fake is often to difficult to take.

One of the worst pages I have ever seen http://www.rXXXXXXX

btw. sell something like Tiffany & Co etc. is not allowed. You use a brand name for your advantage.

If they mark them as fake they will be arrested for trademark infringement

David, I can't speak for neon, but why do I have to answer to you?

Neon,
You locked the other thread so I will again ask you and Pete this question:

Do you think that the blatant selling of illegal counterfeit goods should be something that this forum allows or doesn't allow?

David Craige
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33 "fools" have already answered the question. And I am one of them.

I await your answer.

David Craige
CavidDraige@earthlink.net
http://www.#######.com
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I think what Neon is trying to state diplomatically is that this forum is free, and therefore each user needs to be careful when buying goods. No guarantee exists or is ever implied. Selling counterfeit goods isn't allowed or condoned by W411, but they don't have the manpower, money, or incentive to implement some type of VERO, if that is what you are getting at.

Like Neon stated: eBay has invested millions in an entire apparatus dedicated to stopping the sale of fakes. And for the most part, if has failed miserably.

By what stretch of the imagination can you expect W411 to achieve this goal if eBay hasn't even come close?

My 2 pennies.