Has anyone dealt with Surplus Masters. They are currently running a wholesale 411 shop and also advertising on surplus.net. I believe they are physically located in Philadelphia. They claim to have access to seven, diesel, juicy coutre and a long list of others and are able to provide sanitized paperwork.
They accept payment through paypal which to my understanding would allow me some protection in the event of the transaction falling through. Everything I have seen looks ok, I just wanted some input prior to making a purchase.
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Has anyone dealt with Surplus Masters
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They accept payment through paypal which to my understanding would allow me some protection in the event of the transaction falling through.
Don't count on that. PayPal isn't as sfe for either the buyer or consumer as they would have yo ubelieve. Their buyer protection is cut-rate.
Use your credit card directly. If they only take CC via Paypal, then I personally would not do business with them. This is an indication to me that this is a very new company and one that does not have enough working capital to get themselves a merchant account. Given this is a surplus company, I believe that they most likely are crooks or bad brokers. this is just my opinion. Nothing wrong with brokers but you gotta watch out for those surplus brokers. -
I think that anyone that has access to all the hottest and hardest to get clothes, that are also the top of the conterfit production as well. Is most likely selling fakes, but that's only my opinion. They may be a reputable company, but I have my suspicions about them.
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I also saw this and would like to know????
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maybe im a bit dumb! but how can something not be authentic and they are offering release papers and sanitized invoice, how is that possible?
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The papers are the easiest thing to fake, it's the quality that's hard to copy. When they don't even bother with papers, that's a sure sign they really don't care if people belive the stuff is authentic. When they go through the trouble to fake the papers, they are trying to dodge customs and continue the lie all the way up to the end consumer.
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Any personal experiences with this company? Anyone?
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Hello,
Dear friends,
I am Robert Vayner, the owner/surplusmasters LLC.
I am here to clear everything up or at least start the process & offer my special attention to the concern of authenticity & authorization.
We have been in the etrade business for over 8 years.
I have been the starter & involved with some very successful projects online .
Surplus Masters LLC is our newest baby, we say baby because we only got authorization 1 week ago from our master dealer. This authorization not only allows us to make authorized sales on line but helps us prevent the sales of fakes. This is a new way for an online dealer to purchase these lines (choosing any size or color variations) without the problem of dealing with Jobbers & not knowing what they are getting because the suppliers they are dealing with do not know 100% if the product they are moving is Authentic, Production Item or simply a Fake.
Fake & production items are very close & are both illegal to resell but there is one difference between them.The production item is made out of the same fabric material and even bought from the same source that, for example, Diesel buys from: same stitching (color,brand), same buttons, made at the same location that Diesel makes them. When Diesel contracts a manufacturing plant in USA /Italy & places an order, the design structure for each style, the sources for where to get the right jean material and all the other necessary tags even retail tags with the retail price are sometimes sold out off the back door to a grey market manufacturer that is willing to produce the same jeans but without a legal purchase order & authorization from the brand.
This has been going on forever and will go on forever. It is practically impossible for an etrader/beginner to tell the difference between a Production Item & the Real thing. Now, the fakes are just embarrassing and are very easy to spot just by holding them in your hands so they are nothing to worry about. If you can't spot the fake then, please, educate yourself more by going to the stores and examining the product. Anyone that sells such high end items should take a trip to N*wman Marc*s and just feel out every type of brand they want to sell.
The production items are what you need to worry about because we had people to go to Diesel store with the production item and the manager confirmed that it is genuine when we knew for a fact it was a production item. Calling Diesel stores and asking who is authorized to sell it's product will not get you completely accurate information either because they are only aware of places like Bl**mingdales, N*wman Marc*s and maybe some high end boutiques in California, New York, etc.
We are the authorized vendor through our master dealer for brands like Diesel, Seven,Juicy couture, Von Dutch, Citizens of Humanity & some designer bags like Gucci, Fendi & what ever other designers that are super hot right now. Our master dealer is not a middle man but a representative for the manufacturer.
These designers are getting sick and tiered of fakes killing the market. Only now the fakes are starting to come in from all over. Not just China & places like Great Britain who is the biggest seller of fake seven jeans.
Did you guys notice that when you search eBay for seven jeans keyword, you see tones of British dealers trying to sell in lots or retail.
Did you ever wonder why? European Market is already filled with fakes, it's much harder to sell designer brands on eBay England than on eBay US, that's why British sellers are using eBay US.
What is a master dealer you ask?
As you know there is a term in the industry "Authorized dealer". These are department stores like Bloomies, high end Botiques & so on.
The difference between a master dealer and an authorized dealer is that a master dealer purchases 100,000 products of each style and pays right away and an authorized dealer gets the stock on consignment basis. This is why authorized dealers are often sold out of certain styles that we have(e.g. A pink pocket Seven For All Mankind Jeans).
This gets the Masterdealer a better deal then the regular wholesale price & the rights to the respective brands. A master dealer carries VERY HIGH DEMAND BRANDS ONLY ! Selling to the master dealer gives the brand funding & an opportunity to consign out product and charge full wholesale to ""authorized dealers""..
Now you ask who is http://www.surplusmasters.com ?
We are a company that is
AUTHORIZED TO DISTRIBUTE THESE
BRANDS ONLINE THE SAME WAY AS
THEY ARE DISTRIBUTED TO AUTHORIZED
DEALERS TO HELP FIGHT THE GREY MARKET.
Selling to the master dealer gives the respective brand funding & an opportunity to consign out product and charge full wholesale to ""authorized dealers"".
Now you ask who is http://www.surplusmasters.com ????
We are a company that was authorized to distribute these brands out of our master dealers warehouse who is an authorized owner & dealer of the product that we will provide you with accompanied with full paperwork. Every brand has its own type of paperwork but what this whole "Paperwork" word means is that you will get a sanitized invoice that will have your tax id # & will be reported back to the brand/manufacturer with our authorization number. This will make you the legal owner/reseller of this product.
We are the first of our kind online, we are as legit as is it gets and our product is grade "A" factory fresh. We guaranty 100% authenticity or your money back.
Here is another interesting piece of information. By the end of the Year the NAFTA agreement will expire and Asian region countries like India, Sri Lanka and all other counterfeiting giants will be able to mail the product with UPS & USPS without even having to get import visa (quota) from the government of the manufacturing country. This will cause an epidemic of fakes on the web, especially EBay.
Quota is a way for designers to control the quantity of their brands that enter US and Canada NOW. Since the designer knows what is the quantity of the orders that was placed they inform the manufacturing country government that this is the quantity that could be shipped out of the country. Starting year 2005 designers will have a hard time preventing those countries from importing more quantities than the authentic orders were placed for.
There has never been a true master dealer online before now. For years master dealers had huge accounts all over the world including Caribbean Islands, all the cruise lines, etc. and did not want anything to do with the online community. The fakes epidemic that will start in 2005 is what got our master dealer to finally give us authorization to distribute legally all the high demand lines that they have available. A master dealer will change it's brands according to the market trend and as soon as something becomes a regularly demanded item (not a high demand item), we'll stop selling it.
Our already placed orders will arrive in about 2 weeks and you will start seeing many positive feedbacks about http://www.surplusmasters.com
WE ARE OFFERING A 5 % DISCOUNT ON SECOND ORDERS IF WHO ALREADY PLACED ORDERS WITH US LEAVES A FEEDBACK ON AUTHENTICITY & QUALITY OF OUR PRODUCT LINE & SERVICES WHEN THE ITEMS ARIVE.
Our product is 100% authentic or your money back!
This comes in writing
with every estimate
and a Performa invoice.
Here is my contact info so if anyone has questions I will clear up everything & will be glad to spend some time on the phone with you explaining how this works.
Robert Vayner.
Office 215 343 4842
my mobile # 267 939 9055
Info@surplusmasters.com
http://surplus.net/surplusmasters/index.html
http://www.surplusmasters.com -
Surplusmaster: So is this what you're saying: You sell vast quantities of production clothing, which is basically the same as company-authorized clothing, it's just done without the company's knowledge or "ok"? I'm sure the product DOES look the same as the real thing, but I can't believe that it's legal. Why don't you post here after a bunch of your shipments have made it through customs, and tell us what happens?
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DO NOT DEAL!!! STAY AWAY
It's fake
I know it's fake because I know where he gets it from. -
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to say a business sells 99.9% fake product without even dealing with this organization once is slender
We do not deal with production items we try to educate against them in our previous post that the quate below comes from.How did you conclude that we deal with Production after reading this:
Fake & production items are very close & are both illegal to resell but there is one difference between them.The production item is made out of the same fabric material and even bought from the same source that, for example, Diesel buys from: same stitching (color,brand), same buttons, made at the same location that Diesel makes them. When Diesel contracts a manufacturing plant in USA /Italy & places an order, the design structure for each style, the sources for where to get the right jean material and all the other necessary tags even retail tags with the retail price are sometimes sold out off the back door to a grey market manufacturer that is willing to produce the same jeans but without a legal purchase order & authorization from the brand.
This has been going on forever and will go on forever. It is practically impossible for an etrader/beginner to tell the difference between a Production Item & the Real thing. Now, the fakes are just embarrassing and are very easy to spot just by holding them in your hands so they are nothing to worry about. If you can't spot the fake then, please, educate yourself more by going to the stores and examining the product. Anyone that sells such high end items should take a trip to N*wman Marc*s and just feel out every type of brand they want to sell.
The production items are what you need to worry about because we had people to go to Diesel store with the production item and the manager confirmed that it is genuine when we knew for a fact it was a production item. Calling Diesel stores and asking who is authorized to sell it's product will not get you completely accurate information either because they are only aware of places like Bl**mingdales, N*wman Marc*s and maybe some high end boutiques in California, New York, etc.
We are the authorized vendor through our master dealer for brands like Diesel, Seven,Juicy couture, Von Dutch, Citizens of Humanity & some designer bags like Gucci, Fendi & what ever other designers that are super hot right now. Our master dealer is not a middle man but a representative for the manufacturer
I will try to explain what i must have missed,maybe this is why there is all this confusion unless someone is just stying to hurt us.
the items on the 411shop website http://www.surplusmasters.com are all overruns that we are NOT authorized dealers on & do not provide paperwork on this is the same manufacturers that make products for gap,polo and when gap or polo cant import the whole order for quota issues or any other issues they get left over in the warehouse until gap stops carrying this product in the window display/all stores.As son as this happens we are aloud to come in and purchase these
OVERRUNS. we deface the main label on some as per requirement of the specific brand & it becomes branded surplus which is what the branded community on line is living on right now.
Yes there are the federated ,overstock,shelf pulls and all but it if you want a great price on a high brand product
that has high demand online overrun is the way to go and this is how you would get this GRADE A product pennies on a dollar.We provide this solution on our website with Door to door delivery included in to the price.
http://www.surplus.net/sutplusmasters are items that we are authorized dealers on (seven jeans,von Dutch,diesel,juicy couture & few more)I specifically stated this in my post & soon when my clients receive product people will look very silly for giving us so much trouble without waiting and giving us a chance to proof ourselves to the community.I am a peaceful dealer I spilled my guts to you guys and told the absolute truth.
The 411 site is not our main business, it's a site to which I & few other vendors list until we have the main site built.Policy on that site is that it is only overruns & overstock ,no fakes or production items if we notice anything that looks like that we cancel it(if any of you guys know for a fact that there are suspicious items on http://www.surplusmasters.com contact me info@surplusmasters.com & if they are not overruns you will see how fast they will be gone).
We are working on our own main site that will carry mainly the lines we are authorized for and some overruns from POLO, Gap ,A&f and so on that will be released to us. This is the absolute truth that will be backed up when in another few weeks we will have costumers post the real truth and I will not have to sit here on a Sunday and defend myself.But for now it is hard to sit back and not do anything when you know you are doing so much good for the community that has been taken advantage of for way to long!
Robert.
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