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Wholesale Central.com contacted me and wanted to place me on their site for a fee. Anyone affiliated with them? I called a few sites on their very huge varity of sites the list and have had nothing but good feedback from these business owners. Has anyone here on the forums delt with this company?
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To clear up what they do.... From what I gather... they post your site if your a wholesaler to bring you more customers. It's more or less a large list of wholesale companies. I don't have to $200 for a six month deal. Like I said... a few companies I actually called said that they have brought them business and one guy said he made his money back in the first week. I lost my azz at a craft show in Branson, Missouri and can't afford their services. Grrrrr....
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They spammed you? Meaning unsolicited email? For a fee?
I don't know anything about them. Name sounds like a W411 competitor.
I would really like to sell you something (like swamp land), but I was waiting for Sharon to make you rich and famous first. -
It's a great place for people to find suppliers not sure about the other way around
and it cost nothing for me to look for someone -
ArtBroker wrote:They spammed you? Meaning unsolicited email? For a fee?
I don't know anything about them. Name sounds like a W411 competitor.
I would really like to sell you something (like swamp land), but I was waiting for Sharon to make you rich and famous first.
SPAM is not as you state it. While it may have been unsolicited, it isn;t spam. SPAM is an unsolicited email sent out in bulk to many recipients at once. With your definition of SPAM, no one would be allowed to send out any email to anyone unless they got permission forst. That means no legitimate business inquiries would ba allowed and that would put a real damper on our capitalist system. COntactin you on the phone to try and do business with you would be considered spam, also mail and email. So what's left? Just walk in to their place of business? That is SPAM too by your definition, because it's unsolicited.
AS far as wholesale central goes, they have been around forever and they are legit. They get alot of traffic and it really doesn;t cost that much to list with them if you look at your other options which will cost you 10 times more.
But here's the catch with listing on popular internet wholesale sites. You get alot of inquiries, but most are unqualified dreamers that just waste your time. They flood your phone and email with request for pricing and better prices (on small or even single orders
) and they never buy a thing. Just a bunch of ebay powerseller wannabes thinking they can get something for nothing so they can undercut Walmart and everyone else.
I say, if you have the time to deal with 200 unqualified, non-serious buyers just to get one serious buyer, then go for it, advertise heavily on the net. Otherwise, forget it.
This is just my experience. Yours may differ, who knows. Personally, I have found it best to get on the horn and call brick and mortar buyers. They seem to be more "qualified" and my conversion rate is much higher. -
NO NO NO... they called my on the phone. Guess you might consider that as same as email. I've heard nothing but good things from the people who have paid to use their services. I'm thinking about doing it when I get the money. I'm still waiting for the Sharon Osborne thing as well.... grrrr.
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cxm322 wrote:ArtBroker wrote:They spammed you? Meaning unsolicited email? For a fee?
I don't know anything about them. Name sounds like a W411 competitor.
I would really like to sell you something (like swamp land), but I was waiting for Sharon to make you rich and famous first.
SPAM is not as you state it. While it may have been unsolicited, it isn;t spam. SPAM is an unsolicited email sent out in bulk to many recipients at once. With your definition of SPAM, no one would be allowed to send out any email to anyone unless they got permission forst. That means no legitimate business inquiries would ba allowed and that would put a real damper on our capitalist system. COntactin you on the phone to try and do business with you would be considered spam, also mail and email. So what's left? Just walk in to their place of business? That is SPAM too by your definition, because it's unsolicited.
If Pendants4U only visits this forum, and wholesale central calls 411 people for business was what I was questioning.
If I am using this forum and neon sends me "an unsolicited email" to advertise on his site, okay, I was in his space. Fair game. If W/C is a competitor, then don't contact 411 people.
I personally don't want anyone to call me to sell me something. I only want calls from buyers. And I am not opened to the public. Junk mail? Not a biggie, I throw it out.
Now, if W/C advertises on W411 and somone clicks on their ad and spends money, again, fair game.
As I stated, I know nothing about them (wholesale central). I made no nasty comments. I only said it sounded like a competitor.
After 27 years of owning my own business, I don't want to waste my time with people trying to get my hard earned money. I am old and cranky. I don't pay for advertising and I don't invade other people's space. I will never post a link to my website here, I will not ask anyone to buy from me. I come here to help with good solid information and I know that neon will not sell my name to outsiders because I come here.
If Pendants4U had said w/c called and said, "we see you on W411, and would like to offer you 2 free months with us and if you are happy, we can make a deal". I would have never responded.
I believe Pendants4U comes here for ideas. My idea is to tell them to give two months free advertising because the proof is in the pudding. They called her, she didn't call them. -
CXM,
Sorry my friend, but I have to disagree with you on this one. Spam is and can be anything a person views it as, whether mailed to thousands of people or just 5 mails to you or myself. If it isn't solicited, it is considered spam in my book. People have the given right to pick and choose in this country, and many don't want to be bothered by junk e-mails, door to door salesman, telemarketers, and church groups showing up at their doors. There are several ways to get around much of this including an e-mail spam blocker, caller ID, no call registry, and a big a$$ dog to keep people off my door step. These tactics need to stop because they're a major invasion of a persons privacy, and geared towards sucking in people who don't have the knowledge or the information to make a reasonable decison based on what they are told or receive.
My rule of thumb is to stay away from these situations and concentrate on what I already know or need. If something is missing, it's up to me to seek out a solution, not someone I never heard of or has a website.
I've heard of the above mentioned site and never done business with them. I also know a few companies who do, but avoid it because I have other things on my agenda to worry about.
If Neon e-mailed you daily for the next 30 days to join a particular group, would that not be spam? I'm speaking of just one person, not the whole 411 community. If it isn't directly related to my business or something I've initiated myself, then yes, I consider it spam. -
gvod wrote:If it isn't solicited, it is considered spam in my book.
I understand. But while that may be your own definition, that is not what the goverment agencies that be are attempting to define it as because your definition is a personal one. Because of that, the govt cannot impose it on the whole country because it is only your view and also it is way to strict. With a law based around your definition, e-business would decrease considerably because legit companies would be too scared to send promotoinal emails out to their customers.
Think about this, we all hate junk mail, but has it ever stopped?
No. And it's been around for decades upon decades.
the fact is this (and I have said this before) SPAM and junk mail will never go away because it is simply too profitable. SPAM exists because folks actually buy from SPAM emails. I heard on the new a couple weeks ago (and I posted something about it here) that a major SPAM company was shut down and was being taken to court. It was found that these SPAMers were making $100,000.00 PER DAY. Even if that is a gross sales figure and their net profit was only 1% of that, it's still a good living and it goes to show you that too many folks buy from spam ads and emails.
No, if Neon emailed me persoanlly for a month str8 everyday asking me to join a certain program, I would not consider it SPAM because I am part of his forum. If I was irritated by him, I would simply tell him so and tell him to stop emailing about this specific inquiry. If he did not stop, I would still not consider it SPAM, because it really isn't. I would, however, consider it bad business and also electronic harrassment.gvod wrote:If it isn't solicited, it is considered spam in my book.
Besides, what exactly does that word "solicited" mean? Legally, it is too hard to define because the definition will vary from person to person. That is why "junk mail", "SPAM" and also "pornography" will never be dealt with on a level acceptable to everyone. You simply cannot define these terms to everyone's liking. the courts just have to make up their own definitions that they believe will positively cater to the majority. The rest will just have to deal with it. -
Check out the spamcop sites and others of that sort. They call it UCE - Unsolicited Commercial Email.
The commercial part saves you fro having to take your brother-in-law to court because he emailed you something.
Whether it comes from a mega-list bulk mailing, or a single email from someone trying to sell you something, it's spam. -
Dang it!!!! Quit fighting over the wonderful SPAM thing. I opened this thread about a company... not SPAM!!! Open your own thread and fight all you want about SPAM. I want to know about http://www.wholesalecentral.com!
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OK. You got it. Forget about whether you got spammed or not (you didn't
). The fact is that the company is legit and has been around for a long time. HOwever they choose to contact you is their perogative.
Remember, just becuase others have had success it does not mean you will . There are many factors like what you sell and also you have to consider if the folks you contacted also paid for better placement. I believe that not only can you pay the initial 200 to get listed for 6 months but you also can then buy additional marketing and advertising for additional fees. For instance, you can pay them 150-250 bimonthly to bew placed within the top 5 results within a category or subcategory. Did you ask these folks you called if they used these additional tools?
At any rate, $200.00 for a 6 month period is peanuts and way below industry advertising rates. they have a goole PR of 3 and an Alexa rank of 5,600 (for what that's worth). This tells you they indeed get alot of traffic. If it does not work you're not out much, relatively speaking.
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Try W411. I believe it only costs you $100.00 up front as a deposit for your clicks. But then you have to pay-per-click. That may not be the way to go for you, or it may be the best way to go. Who knows.
Call wholesalecentral.com and talk to them. then do it again. then do it once more. If you feel it's for you, then do it.
Or, just wait until you have saved enough cash that $200.00 isn't much of a blow to your wallet in case it doesn't work. -
Pendants4U wrote:Wholesale Central.com contacted me and wanted to place me on their site for a fee.they called me on the phone.
I find it very interesting that no one has responded that they use w/central. In the previous thread about ikobo, you have multiples of positive opinions.
I did look at their site and saw they have printed magazines since 1996. Not sure when they got into the internet business.
Upon searching W411 site, I found this-
"...Today, pay-per-click advertising allows you to pay for only those visitors who see your message, and let's you know exactly how may of those visitors purchased from you. This type of advertising starts for as little as $100."
http://www.wholesale411.com/about.shtml
I still think it is wrong for a competitor to call. It is an ethics thing with me. But I would give W411 a chance, just for the fact that they haven't invaded your privacy. Send neon a pm (private message) and ask. Maybe you can get a 10 click bonus for being a loyal forum member.
I am glad that you started this thread, that w/c is calling people on this forum.
And I also find it interesting that no one has spoke up for w/c. You got more response about Sharon Osbourne. If you had hot and cold opinions would mean people at least use it. Lukewarm would mean no one uses their site for sales. -
I'm not sure WC picked up my business from here on W411. He just stated that he came across my site. I'm not interested in the pay per click thing. Anyone can just click on a link. I'm just going to find a regular day job and leave my site as a hobby I guess. I'm pretty much screwed fiancially right now with the orders falling off to nothing for the last 2 weeks. I had a huge craft show in Branson Missouri that totally bombed. I was expecting to make at least a grand at this show. I ended up losing my butt. Nothing but alot of old people. Just thinking about the show pisses me off. I still haven't heard anything from the Sharon Osbourne Show.
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CXM I like your style alot of wannabe dealers, LOL talk big demand the world but yet wont risk $200 on a ad or much less themsleves or have no faith in using PPC within the very forum they are using for free. LOL tooo true internet shoppers that buy to resell on ebay or for the most part wannabes
)))) I too deal with corporate buyers and have gotten away from these ebay mentalties and folks with websites that have no backbones or faith in their projects -
It's not a question of risk. I just don't have the extra money. If I did... I would be all over it.
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Pendants4U wrote:I'm not sure WC picked up my business from here on W411. He just stated that he came across my site. I'm not interested in the pay per click thing. Anyone can just click on a link. I'm just going to find a regular day job and leave my site as a hobby I guess. I'm pretty much screwed fiancially right now with the orders falling off to nothing for the last 2 weeks. I had a huge craft show in Branson Missouri that totally bombed. I was expecting to make at least a grand at this show. I ended up losing my butt. Nothing but alot of old people. Just thinking about the show pisses me off. I still haven't heard anything from the Sharon Osbourne Show.
Wow, this thread sure got wacky....
Any idea WHY orders have dropped off a cliff just in two weeks?
Was the craft show just bad placement on the floor leading to low sales?
Are you trying to sell some via consignment at boutiques maybe?
I know you're working hard on increasing sales, and I wish you the best of luck. Your stuff is gorgeous. Try hooking up with a friend in marketing, or even here on the forum to advertise your stuff in the most positive light, and hang in there! -
Pendants4U,
You say your sales dropped off. Are you mostly retailing right now? Whatever the case, where are you getting most of your sales when you do get sales?
Your case is a classic one. You have no money to pursue an idea that you have so you are being so cautious to the point of not doing anything. It takes money to make money or at least it takes credit risk. Either way, you might end up losing your shirt, make no mistake about it.
Don't take this blunt statement as rude, it's only the truth.
I started out in business on credit card debt. wonderful, I know, but it was a risk I had to take for my own good. It was either that or get a fulltime job and the thought of that makes me wanna peeeewk, quite frankly. While I am still in credit card debt myself, I have a much better cash flow that allows me to pay them off little by little. Anyday, however, things could change and I could be left with my credit card debt and no money to pay it off. It's happened before and it could happen again.
Just remember this, too. You are trying to make money on essentially one item. In the business world 9just like stocks) you are better off diversifying even if that diversifying means diversifying within the same category, like jewelry.
Have you tried using a wholesaler that sells other jewelry-type items that are poular with young people? WHen I look at your pendants, the first thing that comes to mind is "goth". Not being too far removed from teenagers and college students myself, it seems to me that most folks who would be into your pendants would be gothic females in the 14-25 year age range. So why not try selling other items that compliment your own items. You can get a new age wholesaler (or a wicca wholesaler) and add these other items to your inventory. This stuff can be had fairly cheap and shipping is no issue as it's all light stuff.
I know. It all comes down to money for you. But I am just makin' some suggestions.
If you are really strapped for cash and you don't want to take the credit card risk but you are really serious about working for yourself, then I suggest you work your a$$ off and get a second job and save up money to buy inventory and market it. All the while you would research the market and make up a plan and set goals.
About the Sharon Osborn thing. It hasn't been that long since you sent her a pendent first of all and also, forget about her. Can you imagine how many products she gets?
Not only that, but TV shows are tapes months and months in advance. If you really want her to possibly give you some exposure you have to wait and possibly send her more. But don't rely on it because it's FREE. Anyhting that's free is not reliable. Ever get government cheese??? LOL Who knows what you're getting. -
This thread is way off track!
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